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@gurra1978 494843 wrote:
Seglade ungefär 7 h effektiv segling idag.
J#sus, did someone handcuff your hands to the boom and throw away the key? Seven bloody hours, I’m impressed.
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Hi, here are a few links I found a while ago. Some of them might help, others not. You may have already seen them, but you get them anyway. 🙂
The first one from Board Lady looks pretty similar to your situation, but the description is a little short, but gives you some pics to look at at least. You might have to go through the rest of the site for more explanation.
Good luck with it all.
http://www.boardlady.com/softdeck.htm
http://www.teamairborn.co.uk/56301/index.html
http://www.windsurfer.co.uk/diyboardrepairs.htm
And from surfzone:
http://www.surfzone.se/forum/showthread.php?t=43154&highlight=reparera+nosen
http://www.surfzone.se/forum/showthread.php?t=42954&highlight=reparera+nosen
http://www.surfzone.se/forum/showthread.php?t=25355&highlight=reparera+nosen
http://www.surfzone.se/forum/showthread.php?t=14296&highlight=reparera+nosen -
Thanks Joachim, I have previously looked at the site and have, as others, had a hard time thinking a board of that size will give me a lively experience (am strictly look second-hand too). But as many say, it is a revolutionary board and one has to ride it to get what it’s about. And I don’t want to turn this into a Kona vs Formula thread. I can read through the older threads for that. 🙂
Do you hold demo days down south (Malmö) at any time of the year?
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Windsuring guru Guy Cribb has a formula of 1/3 from the front of the sail back towards the clew (oljet?). Google ‘Guy Cribb harness lines’ and you’ll find it quick smart.
I just move them forwards or backwards until the sail feels balanced (doesn’t pull on either front or back hand) when up to speed and planing.
In your case, as you’re not getting onto the plane (when in the straps), a couple of things could be happening . Either there isn’t enough wind to get planing, or you are putting too much weight towards the back of the board too fast; in effect ‘putting on the brakes’. Be more gradual/gentle when going back towards the straps, make sure you don’t sheet out when thinking about where to put your feet and even try to maintain mastfoot pressure (hanging down on the boom with harness or hands transferring weight down through the mast). Or it could be other stuff, but that’s my first guess.
Edit: I see I was beaten to it.
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@Calle 488062 wrote:
Surfers Paradise har väl ett nytt segelloft, dom kan säkert svara på vad det kostar.
Yep, I sent them pics of a sail that needed the main (buk) panel, above the lowest batten, replaced. They said around 800kr if it wasn’t too complicated.
My guesss is that you won’t get your money back if you are repairing them just to sell, especially the older one.
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Here’s my 2kr worth.
My wife, who is pretty sporty and strong willed, started a few years ago on a huge 200L board and sailed a couple of times on that (but had sailed on a barge with triangle sail as a teenager so had the very basics kinda already covered).
Then on a WS holiday she jumped on a 150L Go from Starboard. This was still more than big enough and was up and planing almost straight away so could enjoy the rush of going fast. It doesn’t have a centerboard and had no problems in keeping her ground (not ending up down wind). She spent 5 afternoons on this board.
Back home she bought a board of 88L (that was going cheap), thinking that the experience learned on the holiday gave her the boost needed to start on a small board. This was a board from the 90’s so is more unstable than a modern board of the same size.
She jumped on it twice then left it for good as it was just too difficult to get going. This may not have been such an issue if we sailed at a place where it was mostly shallow like Klagshamn or Haga but we sailed where it was deep. She weighs around 60kg I suppose.
Of course you could tough it out for the first month or so on a freestyle of 100-110L, but my guess is that you’d get going faster on something between 110-150L, depending on what you find. Personally, I think 150L would be way too big, but easily sold secondhand when you tire of it. The trick is to find a board of that size secondhand, they get snapped up real quick.
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Read this link.
http://www.surfzone.se/forum/showthread.php?t=41453
I gave tried to give a ‘step by step’ and don’t know if anyone came with a better explanation. I just re-read mine and it’s not the clearest but give it a read and see if it suites your situation.
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Well yeah. It’s a balance thing, especially if there wasn’t much wind or you’re not sailing that fast. The waves will tend to push the board out from under you, if you’re not ready. When you have more speed everything becomes more stable, becoming more like a single unit rather than a board, rig and person all being affected differently by the moving sea and wind.
Speed is your friend. 😉
(not to mention more hours on the water)
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Howdy, as someone of your weight (although a few kilos heavier) we are pretty much in the same boat. Here is my experience with the boards I have. Regardless of my aspirations for the type of sailing I would like to do, it is best described as freeriding.
I split my riding between 2 boards depending on how windy it is.
1. 110L (and a 96L, my wife’s) freestyle ’04 or ’06. Great light wind board and keeps me interested in dabbling with freestyle moves. I use wave sails up to 6.0.
2. 78L Naish Wave Quest ’02(?). This is an early FSW I think; it is a wave board with flat rocker under foot. This makes it quick and great for blasting conditions, handling chop and swell well. Not a dedicated wave riding machine but as I ain’t a wave whore it suites me great. I find the board gets big around 14-15m/s+ where a true wave board of 65-68L would suite me better. (suites sails 4.2 – 5.4)
If I would do it over I would probably get this same board again, maybe a few liters smaller. But I am still to test a 68L wave to see how much more manageable 15m/s+ would be.
I’m not giving any advice just letting you know what works for me. If I had the room I would entertain the idea of a 3rd smaller wave and have it all. 🙂
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@bananen 471590 wrote:
Kan någon gå in i klubbstuga och sätta i kontakten?
Det var roligt. 🙂
From what I understand the site will be getting a face lift, and with that upgrade we’ll be sacrificing any idea of an on-line wind report. Apparently it isn’t as reliable as Drogden, Limhamns Skeppshandel etc anyway. The display that’s there will still be working though.
Petter.
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@40knots 464771 wrote:
My bet is that the weed fin is the problem. Its designed for passing over weed, not designed for optimal hydrodynamic performance. Also, the fin needs to be right size as well. If you were over powered then you should have used a bigger weed fin or switched to a smaller sail. Or sailed faster. Wide boards need bigger fins as well so what worked with your wave board will not necessarily work on your free style board. Note that a waist harness dont let you depressure the feet like a seat harness does and a wave sail doesent give you enough forward pull and therefore your sailing is innefficient with lots of unnessesary sideways pressure on your back foot.
All this sounds very relatable to my experience, down to the comment about waist harness + wave sail set up equaling sideways pressure on back foot.
Thanks guys, it all helps for me to get a picture of what I’m doing with my kit.
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@Klang 464701 wrote:
Vilken utrustning körde du på när du fick spin-out i din slör?
This was normal freeride cruising, neither sailing tight to the wind or much off the wind for speed. The gear I used that day was a freestyle board with normal-sized weed fin, otherwise I use a wave board. Sails are wave. I.e. I am not a speed fiend on speed gear, just like to know that I am sailing as efficiently as possible.
I can’t really claim that I had problems with spin out when on a ‘slör’, although it did happen. I do notice that my balance comes more forward (onto front foot) when sailing off the wind, as you say. It was more when sailing comfortably on the wind but not hard to the wind to gain ground (if you know what i mean) and concentrating on holding speed and form when the gusts hit.
Best is probably to quiz you guys when I see you next on the water… if the wind gods decide to be nice to us again… soon.
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@Klang 462999 wrote:
Gött jobbat, ni har gjort ett super jobb, tackar ödmjukast för detta Petter.
Jo, det är nog BadJannes ‘inre’ radar man ska tacka för 🙂 . Under första passet körde vi nästan på den bara sekunder efter han påstod, med stora viftande gester, att det ska vara ‘där någonstans’. Man har tydligen irrat runt efter den under tidigare år.
Grävare – not a bad idea, but aren’t those pontoon crane/digger thingies expensive?
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@Petter_F 461450 wrote:
Alla utom folkabussen! This huge stone wasn’t found…
…is now found and marked with bouy. Was more like a Fial 500 if you ask me.
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@Larssa 461388 wrote:
Någon som vet om det finns?
Vi e ett gäng som skall dit 9-11Maj och en polare som skall med har inte kiteat innan, men tänkte gå en kurs om det finns. Fler som e sugna på att hänga med så boka stuga på http://www.dancenter.dk/There are two kite/windsurfing shops in that area, same company, and I’m pretty sure they have a website. Doing a bit of a Google would find them.
Edit: Westwind – that’s them. You beat me to it.